M84 Telescope Manuals
To my recollection, Leupold and Stevens was the only manufacturer that put the drawing number on the M84 tube. L&S M84's are also distinguished by no white border around the serial number and the silver serial number plate screws.
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Combine the three and there's no doubt it's a L&S manufactured M84. You don't see those drawing numbers on all M84's and others, Libby Owens Ford (LOF) have the white border around the serial number (mayber not all, I'm not entirely sure).
Depending on the date some LOF serial number plates had silver screws and some had black. Don't mess with me like that! Star jalsha serial download. That was a good one though! Did you get that rifle built for your son on that SA 1.933 receiver you got from me?
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Nope, did'nt end up building that for him(yet). I got them a snowblower for Christmas instead.:D Might just hold the garand for his birthday, or keep it for meself.:) I still have the receiver and I've gathered up(or already had) most of the parts, including correct barrel,uncut oprod,lockbar sight and nice GAW stock set. Only thing I'm missing are a few internals, easy stuff to get just have'nt got around to it yet. Nope, did'nt end up building that for him(yet). I got them a snowblower for Christmas instead.:D Might just hold the garand for his birthday, or keep it for meself.:) I still have the receiver and I've gathered up(or already had) most of the parts, including correct barrel,uncut oprod,lockbar sight and nice GAW stock set.
Only thing I'm missing are a few internals, easy stuff to get just have'nt got around to it yet. Like to see some pics when you get it built. Looks like you got all the hard (expensive):) stuff to find!
Fulton Armory FAQ: On the M1D and M84 On the M1D and M84 by Bruce Jackson After getting a beautiful M1D with all accessories from the CMP last year, I went in search of information on the M84. Not much out there! A friend loaned me his 1947 copy of War Department Technical Manual TM9-1275 Ordnance Maintenance, U.S. Rifles, Cal.30, M1, M1C and M1D (Sniper's). This lists specs on the M81 and M82 scopes as follows: • wt. Of scope - 0.84 lb • Focus - Universal • Maximum useful range - 800 to 1,000 yd • Field of vision at 100 yd - 35 ft • Magnification - 2.5 X • Eye relief - 5 in. Both were Lyman Alaskan scopes produced for the military.
The M81 had a cross-wire reticle and the M82 a tapered post, otherwise they were identical.The reticle was internally adjustable for windage and elevation in one minute of angle clicks. Numerical graduation marks had a value of two m.o.a. The M84 scope replaced the M81 and M82 and was standard issue in April 1945.
Peter Senich provided the most detailed information on these scopes that I have found in his book LIMITED WAR SNIPING, Paladin Press, 1977. I found this book at the library while researching info. On the M1D and M84.
Chapter 4, Semi-Automatic Sniping System, The M1 Garand, goes into considerable detail on the history of the M1C, M1D and their scope and mount development programs. Page 63 opens the history on the M84 in early 1945. As a 2.2 X conventional design (T134) very similar to the M82, it was to compete in field tests against 3 X and 4.5 X designs in June of '45. For unknown reasons those scopes were rejected and the T134 adopted in April '45 as the M84. It has a universal focus, field of view is 27 feet at 100 yd, diameter is.870 in., length with rubber eye-piece and sunshade extended is 13.2 in., the reticle is a post with horizontal cross-wire, eye relief is 5 in.